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Published On: Thu, Nov 20th, 2025

Joe Rogan: Smart People, “The Experts” That Are True Believers In Government Are The People That Scare Me The Most

On Tuesday’s episode of “The Joe Rogan Experience,” host Joe Rogan discussed the nuance of conspiracy theories with comedian Theo Von and expressed concern about people who have unwavering faith in federal authority.

JOE ROGAN: What makes me nervous is the people that are not aware that all of our assumptions of how the government works were all based on bullsh*t. The people that still believe, that are like true believers of one side or the other, true faith in government and experts, those people make me more nervous. Because some of them are smart. That’s what’s crazy. When smart people are completely unwilling to recognize that conspiracies are not just real, but they’re also not rare. They’re very common. They’re common and people get away with them. Especially when they’re in positions of extreme power, like running intelligence agencies. There’s a lot of things that they do that are morally reprehensible, but totally legal. They can do it because they’re allowed to because they are a three-letter organization and they have ultimate power to do a lot of really gross things that are in the nature or in the interest of national security. So this is the whole idea behind this. This is our decision. This is the best move for national security. This is how we compromise assets. This is how we gather information. It’s how we keep America safe. THEO VON: But why is it our FBI and CIA are working against us? That’s what it feels like. They’re just tricking us about everything. JOE ROGAN: They’re tricking some people on purpose. THEO VON: But why is that even their goal? JOE ROGAN: Because they’re trying to arrest people. So this is the problem with your career. This has been explained to me by a lot of people that are experts and people that know. John Kiriakou explained it this way. Your reputation is based on how successful you have been arresting people, cracking cases. So people set up cases so they can break them. They basically set up an escape room and they’re like, I don’t know how to get out of here. And they pretend that they’re just like a regular wizard that stumbled into the escape room. No, you set the whole thing up. Yeah, that’s what it is. Well, it’s the same as a bunch of those stories.

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