During a conversation on Sunday with Stephen A. Smith, ABC’s “This Week” host Jonathan Karl declared that there is “no evidence whatsoever ” to the allegations that the Trump administration and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard are making about “Russiagate” and the Obama administration.

JONATHAN KARL, ABC NEWS: And to be clear, I mean, I went through all that Tulsi Gabbard did. It was — there was no evidence whatsoever to the allegations they were making. And then, you know, to — maybe, it’s because of your point about the immunity decision, but Trump actually suggested last night that that Kamala Harris should be prosecuted for allegedly buying the votes, endorsements of celebrities like Beyonce. Again, no evidence to this stuff. But I mean, what — this is back-to-back, almost in the sports, a couple days that the president of the United States calling for prosecuting the former president and the former vice president. STEPHEN A. SMITH: Well, listen, the — at some point in time, somebody needs to challenge the president on what he’s doing now because if what you’re doing is so great, why would you want to distract our attention? Wait, that’s not the Donald Trump we know. The Donald Trump that we know lives in the moment of things that he deems to be doing successfully in his eyes. If the Big, Beautiful Bill, you know, preserves the 2017 tax cuts and does so much to the economy and does so much for small businesses and what have you, like he has proclaimed, why would you want to distract our attention with all of this stuff? Maybe you’re evading the issue of the Epstein files because your Administration overpromised and underproduced. We all know what you were telling MAGA, right, that there was a whole bunch of stuff to be released, and certainly it was forthcoming and certainly it did not happen. And so, when you look at it from that standpoint, you find yourself saying, excuse me, the former president, treason, former vice president and Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United States, you know, you want her prosecuted. It just seems to be, I wouldn’t say much ado about nothing because I’m not trying to absolve anything from anyone in terms of any kind of actions that they may have engaged in that, dare I say, are illegal. We don’t know that. We haven’t seen any proof of that. But for Trump to be focused on, on this, this is where the big problem comes in. You are looking backwards when America needs to look forward, and that’s the problem right Now. Let’s look — let’s move forward.

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