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Published On: Wed, May 7th, 2025

Rep. Comer: “Villain” Fauci Lied To Everyone About COVID Origins, AG Bondi Should “Charge Him” For Perjury

Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Congressman James Comer (R-KY) joined FOX News host Will Cain on his radio show to break down the Trump administration’s gain-of-function research ban. Comer claimed the Biden administration and Dr. Anthony Fauci allowed taxpayer dollars to fund risky and secretive gain-of-function research around the world, including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. He stressed that Americans should be outraged that their hard-earned tax dollars were used by mad scientists to engineer more deadly and transmissible coronaviruses. “The difference between what Bondi would be able to do versus what what Rand Paul tried to do in the Senate or I tried to do in the House is she now has access to all the NIH documentation and everything that Dr. Fauci was concealing during the Biden administration. Now the Trump administration should have access to it. So it should be a lot easier case for for Bondi moving forward because the evidence should be there and there should be people willing to come forward to testify against Dr. Fauci,” Comer said.

WILL CAIN, HOST: I think let’s start here, Chairman. I thought we were done with gain of function anyway, like under Biden. I thought that was sort of the plan. You know, like we’re not supposed to be funding gain of research. We all know it wasn’t abided. Maybe that’s on Fauci. Maybe that was on the White House. Who knows where it was directed from? But like formally, formally, you know, I thought we were done with gain of function. REP. JAMES COMER (R-KY), HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: Well, this is all on Fauci because Fauci lied to everyone. This gain of function probably started during the Obama administration. It went on during the first Trump administration. It went on while Joe Biden was president, all the way till people started suspecting that this was taking place. Remember the whole time Dr. Fauci lied to the American people. This was this was at the center of the world during COVID. What happened when Fauci said there was no gain of function being conducted at Wuhan? The American tax dollars weren’t taking place. The COVID-19 didn’t start in Wuhan. All of these were lies. We know these are lies. My committee had a task force that investigated this for a year. We concluded that Dr. Fauci lied. We were funding gain of function research through the Wuhan lab. We traced the money to the grant to the company based out of New York that was receiving the grant. And very happy that this all ended with with President Trump signed an executive order banning it in the future. CAIN: But if that’s if that’s true, how come we don’t see charges or accountability for Dr. Fauci when it comes to perjury? COMER: Well, Rand Paul and I both have said publicly, we hope that there are charges for for Dr. Fauci, this is something that we hope Pam Bondi will take up. I think the evidence is clear. You know, when when Dr. Fauci, who’s a very good witness, I’ll give him credit. He’s very good. He’s very convincing when he would go in front of American people every day and talk about COVID and encourage people to wear masks and all that. When we had him in committee, he’s like he never said anything about wearing masks. He didn’t say anything about shutting schools down. He testified. He didn’t say anything about social distancing and ivermectin and all the all the scandals that were taking place throughout the whole saga of COVID-19. Dr. Fauci was the face. He was the instigator. He was the face. He was the hero. He in the end, he’s the villain. And yet, you know, he denies any role whatsoever in in COVID. But what the executive order today is another nail in the coffin for Dr. Fauci. Yes, we were funding gain of function research. It was secret. Dr. Fauci was a one man show. He lied about it. And, you know, the first step is banning it in the future. Hopefully the second step will be Pam Bondi bring in Dr. Fauci and try to start some accountability. CAIN: OK, so two things. I’ll be calling for that. You’ll be hearing about that on The Will Cain Show. If that is true, what you just said, that he lied, then there should be perjury charges, no ifs, ands or buts. Absolutely something we should see from the DOJ. Second, the way you laid it out, if Dr. Fauci or Peter Daszak was funding gain of function research in Wuhan, and we do have the reporting on that stuff. Was that not already a violation of American policy under Biden? So, A, why do we need this new executive order? B, what is the repercussion for violating a policy under Biden? So I think, as you just pointed out, Mr. Chairman, that Fauci, Daszak and the whole enterprise would have been violating a previous policy. COMER: Yeah, I don’t know what the previous policy was. I know this, that Dr. Fauci under oath in front of the Senate committee when Rand Paul was there grilling him and in front of our subcommittee when we were all grilling him, was that it wasn’t technically gain of function. And he would say some other scientific, technical term that it was. That’s his way out of if he’s got a good enough lawyer of perjury. But you know what the Department of Justice needs to do is just weigh the whole thing, bring everything in, bring all this internal data that now they are privy to that we weren’t back when when Joe Biden was president, bring it all in and charge him. So he’s very, as I said earlier, he was a very good witness. You could make the argument that, well, it technically wasn’t gain of function. It was some other scientific term. That’s where he and Rand Paul got into it. If you go back and watch the film when Rand was trying to nail him for perjury, you know, he was very careful and very slick with his words. And, you know, who really knows what the definition of gain of function research is? Here’s what I know is they were doing mad science projects in there that tax dollars were never supposed to go. And when we first when it first came out, you know, he denied that that that’s where the tax dollars were going. Then he denied, well, that may be our tax dollars, but that wasn’t really gain of function research. This was something entirely different. OK, you know, at the end of the day, I remember that. CAIN: Yeah, I remember the semantics game from from Dr. Fauci, which is what it was. He would play. He would play to get out of a perjury charge and he would play to avoid the the allegation that you’re violating a policy on gain of function, which is a trial that I would love to watch. COMER: I would love to watch the difference between. Go ahead. Yeah. The difference between what Bondi would be able to do versus what what Rand Paul tried to do in the Senate or I tried to do in the House is she now has access to all the NIH documentation and everything that Dr. Fauci was concealing during the Biden administration. Now the Trump administration should have access to it. So it should be a lot easier case for for Bondi moving forward because the evidence should be there and there should be people willing to come forward to testify against Dr. Fauci.

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