HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy and Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins discussed the new food pyramid in an interview with FOX News host Laura Ingraham on Wednesday.

LAURA INGRAHAM, HOST: With me exclusively, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Ag Secretary Brooke Rollins. Thank you both for being in the studio tonight. This is a big day. Secretary Kennedy, so this new inverted food pyramid puts red meat and veggies at the top and moves the grains to the bottom. Tell us why. HHS SECRETARY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.: I mean red meat, protein, eggs, poultry, any kind of healthy protein. Today, 50% of the calories that our children eat are ultra-processed food or highly refined carbohydrates and it’s literally poisoning them. And that is the result of a food pyramid that was driven by mercantile impulses that put Fruit Loops at the top of the fruit pyramid. We now have a science-based food pyramid that is based upon the most recent best science and it’s telling people to proteins, eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and whole grains and that is going to transform the American dietary culture. INGRAHAM: Madam Secretary, how does the USDA though plan to shift the billions in subsidies we give toward processed commodities, toward more whole proteins and foods? Because we subsidize a lot of what’s poisoning our kids, do we not? AGRICULTURE SECRETARY BROOKE ROLLINS: That’s right. I mean, $ 400 million a day is what the United States Department of Agriculture spends on nutrition programs, which is food stamps, school lunches, etc. The market moving opportunity in that is pretty stunning. This announcement, our partnership is unprecedented. There’s never been two cabinet secretaries on this issue that have been willing to work together like this. So as Bobby and the team, his teamwork on the health side, listen, the big winners in is America and American health, but also our farmers and our ranchers. So the opportunity under food stamps and others to incentivize and move toward this new dietary guideline with better food, more locally produced food. INGRAHAM: But we still subsidize sugar, don’t we? ROLLINS: Well, as we know with SNAP, the SNAP waivers, all of the SNAP reforms that are going on, we are moving away from that very quickly. INGRAHAM: That would be great. And Mr. Secretary, to that point, I know you’ve talked about this before, I believe in speeches, um, that we might at some point introduce warning labels on some of the food. By the way, are these, do these don’t say the brand name. They’re all sorts of cookies that look like this, but I did bring a few that I might’ve eaten before the show, but they kind of make a cheese plaque. So I brushed afterward. Um, but are we going to warning labels on our favorite snacks? KENNEDY: Yeah. I mean, you know, what we’re doing, our approach is not to tell people what they can and cannot eat, uh, to give them very good dietary advice, tell them what’s good for their health. And then if you want to have a soda pop and a donut, that’s up to you. We live in America. You ought to be able to make those choices, but we are moving right now to move to front of label, front of, uh, front, front of product labeling, or we are going to tell people exactly, uh, what’s in their food and why, whether it’s good for them or bad for them, and let them make healthy choices. INGRAHAM: When’s the last time you had a donut? KENNEDY: Last time I had a donut. INGRAHAM: Yeah. KENNEDY: I can tell you that it was more than 10 years ago.

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