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Published On: Fri, Jul 25th, 2025

Scarborough: Even If Gabbard’s Crazy Conspiracy Theories Were Right, They Would Be Irrelevant Because Presidents Are Immune

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough on Thursday’s “Morning Joe” reacted to DNI Tulsi Gabbard’s press conference, where she laid out how then-President Obama ordered false intel to undermine then-candidate Donald Trump. “Here on Morning Joe, we ring the bell when Tulsi Gabbard meets her low expectations. So we’re going to be ringing it a lot,” Scarborough said after chastising the DNI.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Let’s talk about more mundane issues first. We’ve been saying it every day here. We’ve been saying it for months now. Marco Rubio, when he was the head of the Intelligence Committee in the United States Senate, run by Republicans, had every Republican sign on to very, very explicit language saying that Donald Trump’s own campaign caused, what was the exact language, a grave counterintelligence threat. And they went on and on talking about how Russia was trying to influence the outcome of the election. I mean, what’s crazy about this is, and of course, many people would say, some say, some say it’s because what’s on the front page of the Wall Street Journal this morning, DOJ told Trump his name is among those in Epstein files. Some would say, Tulsi Gabbard, and what was that yesterday? Seriously? Talk about playing down to the lowest of low expectations. Tulsi, congratulations. You just did it. And I think expectations may have been here, and I think you may have gotten, you can’t even see it on the TV screen, but if you can see my right hand to be down here, Tulsi Gabbard, you are the winner of actually meeting the lowest of low expectations that were laid out for you. But all of this stuff is just leading to chaos. And maybe the president thinks, let’s throw as much against the wall as we can throw against the wall. But as Karl Rove writes, let’s see, it’s in the Wall Street Journal opinion, there is a political price to conspiracy theories. We’ll get into Karl’s op-ed in a little bit. But they’re actually seeing that price, and they’re making these wild, outrageous claims. And I just, I don’t think it helps the president. I know it sure doesn’t help the country in the long run. And as the Wall Street Journal is also saying, and others have said, you know, you got a, you actually got a decision from the Supreme Court that grants presidents immunity. So even if your wild, crazy conspiracy theories were right, they would be irrelevant. JONATHAN LEMIRE, CO-HOST: Yeah, I heard you hit the bell there, talking about DNI. SCARBOROUGH: We don’t do that much. Hold on, she’s on the, there we go again. I just hit it again. LEMIRE: That underscores where we are. SCARBOROUGH: That underscores where we are. You know, sometimes when you have baseball parks in the summer, somebody hitting a grand slam, like happened last night, for instance, with the Red Sox. But we’ll talk about that later. Maybe fireworks will go up over a stadium, right? But here on Morning Joe, we ring the bell when Tulsi Gabbard meets her low expectations. So we’re going to be ringing it a lot.

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