The new Department of Justice “weaponization czar,” Ed Martin, told FBN’s “Mornings With Maria” Bartiromo that three things need to happen in response to alleged government abuses: “One is that we have to figure out exactly what happened. A lot of that’s hidden, a lot of it’s been misleading. The second thing is to hold people accountable.” “Some of it will be prosecutorial. Some of it may be outside the statute of limitations, but we can still publicly pronounce it, and the third thing is to get some help for the people who were weaponized against. Some will be outside the statute of limitations, but we can still publicly pronounce it. Third, get help for the people who were weaponized against.” “We have a huge job to do because almost every area of American life was targeted by the Biden administration in the last four years,” he said. “We have to unpack that and unravel it. It’s going to take less time than trials would. One of the fears is that prosecutions take years. We have to go faster than that, in terms of public disclosure, and then still have the trials and prosecutions.” “It’s a big, complex thing,” he said. “Our job, as [chair of President Trump’s Intelligence Advisory Board] Devin Nunes alluded to, is now to follow the trail and go and find who did what and when.” They start by commenting on Bartiromo’s Sunday interview with Devin Nunes, the chair of President Trump’s Intelligence Advisory Board: Nunes: We’ve Peeled Back Layers Of Corruption, “The Last Part The Left Owns Are The Judges” “Ed Martin was supposed to be the U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. Now the president has appointed him to go after this,” Nunes said. “Ultimately, it’s up to the Department of Justice to hold these dirty cops responsible for what they drug this country through for the last almost decade now.

MARIA BARTIROMO: How do you unwind the damage done, and the lost trust in the DOJ and FBI? ED MARTIN: On day one, when Donald Trump signed an executive order about weaponization-getting after this. On Attorney General Bondi’s first day, she issued a memorandum laying it out. We’ve been working on it for two months. Kash and Dan-I worked with them as U.S. Attorney. They have a hard job going through the internals of the FBI. It’s a big, complex thing. Our job, as Devin Nunes alluded to, is to now go and follow the trail-go and find who did what, when. I tell people there are three things at the top. One, figure out exactly what happened. A lot is hidden. A lot has been misleading. Second, hold people accountable. Some of that will be prosecutorial. Some will be outside the statute of limitations, but we can still publicly pronounce it. Third, get help for the people who were weaponized against. All three of those components are what Pam Bondi has asked us to do. And we have a huge job, because almost every area of American life was targeted by the Biden administration over the last four years. That is the process we’re going through. It may be the most important thing I could ever be asked to help participate in. BARTIROMO: Congratulations-because you’re right, it is an incredible role, particularly when we all witnessed no accountability for the Russia collusion made-up story. Now, the statute of limitations is in play-so, do they get away with it? The people came up with this idea that Trump colluded with Russia and drove it through the government, it went viral across the country. People today still think Russia and Trump had some relationship. ED MARTIN: Well, do they get away with it? No. The question is-how do we hold them accountable? Some things are outside the statute of limitations. But if it’s a series of ongoing acts, RICO laws have ways to get past that. But we have to find out. And I think there will be accountability. Maybe we don’t see it immediately, but we may have to find out. Sometimes people were making money off the process-and we can go after that. There’s a lot to do. First thing: get to the bottom of it, and be public about it. You mentioned many people in this country are victims of what I call “the hoaxes” that capture our imagination because the media spent so much time-like the January 6 Committee led by Liz Cheney-spent hundreds of millions on media to condition people to think something about January 6 that we know was not true. So we have to unpack that and unravel it. It’s going to take less time than trials would- One of the fears is that prosecutions take years. We have to go faster than that, in terms of public disclosure, and then still have the trials and prosecutions. BARTIROMO: Didn’t they destroy evidence? How do they get away with destroying evidence? And then they made people think one narrative was underway when it was a completely different narrative. Kash Patel told me to make sure I understand the difference between FBI agents and FBI sources because they suggest there were sources in plain clothes in the crowds on January 6, egging people on. You know? ED MARTIN: Yes. First of all, on destroying evidence, that is one thing where we can maybe pull forward-if we find evidence of that. Also, one thing we can do: give immunity to people to come and tell the truth. There are people who were participating in the “Covid Era” who may have liability. They may be minor players-but it is very much in the tradition of saying, Hey, we are giving you immunity so you can come in and tell the whole truth of what was going on. I had a whistleblower in my office talking about some of these things about ten days ago. We have to, as the Weaponization Committee ad the DOJ go and get all that information. Give people a chance to tell the truth so we can get to the next step. BARTIROMO: I want to move to pardons, because I know you are putting some new scrutiny on some pardons that Joe Biden put in place toward the end of his term. I just got a text from someone who said: Was Joe Biden getting radiation cancer treatments while he was in the White House or were they forgoing them so he wouldn’t be wiped out and look even worse than he was? Of course, these treatments are very aggressive and they do wipe people out. Some of the pardons that President Biden put in place-literally, some he did 20 minutes before President Trump was inaugurated. His son, Hunter Biden was pardoned, along with other high-ranking officials on the January 6 Committee. Now that we know Joe Biden was sick-and may have been sick while he was president-and they were hiding it from us, what do you want to say about these pardons? Are they legitimate? ED MARTIN: Here’s the way this goes: when something happens so unprecedented, like the Biden pardons are something we’ve never seen in history. The length back in time, the breadth, and the speed at which they were done. If you’re a prosecutor, you’d say, What is going on here? I’ve been following you. And this is like a business deal. If I try to sell a piece of real estate and lie about it, you can get your money back from me and maybe I go to jail for fraud. If an agent for someone else engineered a deal fraudulently — and it looks like Joe Biden didn’t know what he was doing. It looks that way. We don’t know yet. We need to know: who was engineering the pardons? What were they engineering it for? Were they getting paid for it? Were they doing it to cover up their own crimes? I mean, if you look closely at what the pardons were, and when they happened, there are a lot of questions that clearly are present. Adn remember, the autopen, now. If you use that tool to engineer pardons-autopens are legal, established. But not if the guy you’re doing it on behalf of is not competent to do the deal. So this is basic contract law/business law. And the country deserves answers. We’ve had the pardon power since the very beginning of the country. It was there at the beginning because we wanted our executive to have that power. We have to protect it. And right now we may be seeing a fraud on the American people. Well, perhaps a fraud, because of what the Biden pardons did. We need to get to the bottom of it. BARTIROMO: It’s incredible because we just saw the Robert Hur tapes. The tapes show it all. Right after the Hur tapes were released, they suddenly take the prostate cancer diagnosis out of the closet. And you know, you don’t want to ask these questions in the middle of a hard time-because we all pray that he’s okay. But at the same time, these are national security issues. So do you believe someone else was running things? Talking about autopen-is that not elder abuse? ED MARTIN: Well, my wife is a geriatric physician. She can tell you about that. I agree with you. I don’t need to get there. I’m saying-a whistleblower in my office as U.S. Attorney told me who was running the White House. Again, this is just the beginning of a whistleblower, they were saying, ask who was benefiting from controlled access? There are a lot of questions that have to be asked. I’m sorry about the cancer diagnosis, and all that. But I have to tell you as an attorney, as someone who has seen this, there are people in jail from January 6, people persecuted after the “Russia, Russia, Russia” hoax , wo see lives were turned upside down. The truth deserves to be known. And the people who did this deserve to be held accountable. That’s what we have to do. Weaponization means you hide from people the true reason you’re doing something. We’re not hiding. Joe Biden is not a target because of who he was. It’s his conduct. That’s what Donald Trump told us and what Pam Bondi told us in the weaponization group. And we’re being transparent about why we’re moving ahead. I think the American people deserve it. MARIA BARTIROMO: One point I keep making is the judge who gave a slap on the wrist to Kevin Clinesmith-that FBI agent, a young agent, but he lied. He said Carter Page was not an asset of the CIA. In fact, he was working with the CIA to get information on the Russians. And the FBI targeted him-wanted to know why he was talking to Russians. Carter said, I’m talking to the Russians because I’m working with the CIA. And then Kevin Clinesmith writes not an asset. So what happens? The judge just smacks him on the wrist and says he gets community service. That is the same judge trying to stop President Trump today with the immigration plan: Judge Boasberg. Then Adam Schiff, who went on on every show on TV in 2017 and 2018, and told us Russia collusion was in plain sight. Any accountability there? No. Now he’s a senator. ED MARTIN: That goes back to your point. There’s about a dozen people that seem to be at the center of a lot of this-Brennan, Clapper, Lisa Monaco. What must not escape accountability is really identifying and laying this out. Again-prosecute when you can. I’m for it. Civil lawsuits-when you can, go for it. But also, get the truth out. Most of these people are lying in plain sight. They’re at the Georgetown Law Center and — Andrew Weissmann is another guy. He was in the middle of targeting the American people from Enron all the way through Mueller, and then his tools were used on J6. Getting to the bottom of it is necessary. MARIA BARTIROMO: By the way, Devin Nunes says Mueller’s team needs to be looked at, there could be criminality there. You have a full portfolio. A lot of work. Wow, politics is dirty, man. And there could be serious criminiality here.

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