On SiriusXM Radio, host Megyn Kelly is joined by Vice President JD Vance to discuss what the Trump administration does next in Iran, why they will avoid another Middle East “quagmire,” what happens next with Greenland, Europe’s decline and a “new world order,”

MEGYN KELLY, HOST: There’s a very large faction of the Republican party that says, what are we talking about Iran for? What do you mean? America first, let’s focus on our own problems, affordability, all these things. They think President Trump has spent too much time focused on overseas issues anyway, and they definitely don’t wanna get involved in Iran. And then there’s a larger faction another faction that is also large, that’s more NeoCon, that says, we missed an opportunity. We let those protestors down. You know, the window’s closing. We should be more aggressive militarily there right now. Where do you fall? VICE PRESIDENT VANCE: Well, so first of all, I hear the criticisms out there that the administration’s too focused on foreign policy. I just have to defend the president. I don’t think that’s true. I think that certainly when you’re the President of the United States, you do have to conduct foreign policy. We’re the most powerful country in the world. But what I see him every day, he’s laser focused on how do we make the American people more prosperous and more secure in their own country? That’s what our immigration policy is about, which we’ve taken a raft of crap over. That’s what our crime policy is about. Even the foreign policy stuff – much of the president’s foreign policy has been focused on reshoring industry, on using tariffs to force people to reinvest the United States of America. So the global criticism, I just don’t think people, look, the president is gonna have to engage in foreign policy, but this president, I think, is much more focused on the homefront than any president in my lifetime. And he’s gotten a lot – I mean, look, $ 18 trillion in new investment, the country’s finally starting to re industrialize MEGYN KELLY, HOST: 18 trillion from other countries who are investing in the United States. VICE PRESIDENT VANCE: Who are investing in the United States of America. That has been the exact opposite. MEGYN KELLY, HOST: Building companies. VICE PRESIDENT VANCE: For our entire lives, Megyn, it has been American money building factories overseas. Now it’s other money coming into build factories for American workers and the American people. That’s big. By the way. We’re not gonna see the full benefits of that for years, maybe even a decade. But that’s the sort of investment in the country that really pays long-term dividends. Now, Iran specifically, like what should we do with Iran? Okay, a couple of things. First of all, it’s the president’s decision. He will ultimately decide how we handle this particular Iranian situation. Just like he decided on Operation Midnight Hammer. What he has been very clear on, if you go back to 2015, 2016, 2021, 2025, the President has said consistently, we can’t let these people have a nuclear weapon. Now, why, why does that matter to America? Number one, the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism. You think it’s bad when we have a domestic terror attack where a couple of people die? And you’re right. What happens when the same people who are shooting up a mall or driving airplanes into buildings have a nuclear weapon? That is unacceptable. And it’s not just them, because if the Iranians get a nuclear weapon, you know, who gets a nuclear weapon like the next day? The Saudi Arabians, and then somebody else in the Gulf Arab state. And so you have nuclear proliferation on a global scale. The biggest threat to security in the world is a lot of people having nuclear weapons. So what the president said is, Iran’s not gonna get a nuclear weapon. We’re gonna work with China and Russia and any country, whether their friend or whether we’re a little more competitive, to try to draw down the amount of nuclear weapons that exist in the world. I think that’s the most important thing you could do for peace and stability. And the question is, what do you do to enforce that red line? Okay? Iran can’t have a nuclear weapon. That is the stated policy goal of the President of the United States. It’s so funny. Sometimes you have people who are saying, well, the president’s too belligerent. And then sometimes you have people who say, well, the president, he’s talking about diplomacy and he’s talking about negotiating with the Iranians. We shouldn’t negotiate. We should just bomb them. What the president’s gonna do is, is he’s gonna keep his options open. He’s gonna talk to everybody. He’s gonna try to accomplish what he can through non-military means. And if he feels like the military is the only option, then he’s ultimately gonna choose that option. I’m not, obviously, even if I knew what we were gonna do, I would not tell you and your and your many millions of listeners. But I feel like people have to remember this is not about like, look, I grew up in the Iraq generation. MEGYN KELLY, HOST: Quagmire. VICE PRESIDENT VANCE: I enlisted in the Marine Corps as an idealistic young kid right after 9/11. I enlisted in 2003, I went to Iraq in 2005. I am very cognizant that the Middle East leads to quagmires, trust me. So is the President of the United States. And we’re hearing that. We know that’s out there, but more importantly, we know the history and the president does not, he has no interest in repeating the history of Iraq. What he does wanna make sure is that there’s a totally separate issue, which is you don’t let crazy people get nuclear weapons and then lead to a nuclear arms race all over the world.

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