MEGYN KELLY: This stuff with Jill Biden is unbelievable. Let’s just show let’s say she, she gave an interview on it. Do we have it queued up? Show what she’s saying now about how shocked, shocked she was. I think it’s at eight when she saw this debate. RITA BRAVER, CBS SUNDAY MORNING: Were you horrified as you saw it unfold? JILL BIDEN: I wasn’t horrified. I was frightened because I had never, ever seen Joe like that. Before or since, never. BRAVER: Or since? BIDEN: Yes. BRAVER: You’ve never seen him like that? BIDEN: Never. No. BRAVER: What happened? BIDEN: I don’t know what happened. I mean, as I watched it, I thought, oh my God, he’s having a stroke. And it scared me to death.<\/i> MEGYN KELLY: Jesse Kelly, I submit these are lies. She had seen him many, many times and she did not think he was having a stroke. She knew this was par for the course. This is revisionist history to make her look less culpable on the coverup. Your take. JESSE KELLY: Well, I have a lot to say, Megyn. Just let me have it for a couple of minutes. First, she’s a Biden and the Bidens are like every, all politicians lie. Republicans lie. Democrats lie. You understand you’re going to get some degree of lying with all politicians. That’s the way it’s always been. But they’re in American politics. I’ve never found anybody who lies bigger than the Biden’s lied. And I say that because they would tell gigantic, easily verifiable lies over and over and over again. And Joe Biden, he used to say it was one of his go-to lines of, oh, you know, back when the second amendment was written, you couldn’t own a cannon. And his own staffers went to him and said, Joe, could you please stop saying that? That’s just verifiably false. You could own a cannon. Could you, could you set that one aside? But he never stopped. Like he did. It just doesn’t matter. You just tell the biggest, boldest lie. It doesn’t matter. And so for her to say the big, bold Biden, Biden lies, they’re amazing for her to say, she never saw him like that. It’s just such a Biden lie. It’s not just an obvious lie. It’s a huge, obvious, right in your face lie. The Joe Biden we saw is the American people was the best version of him after they had him hopped up on God knows what they were injecting into that guy as his brain was slowly melting into tapioca pudding. Jill Biden saw him in the morning. She saw him that night after the cameras were off and the drugs had worn off and there was nothing left but a senile, possibly, I mean, I don’t know, Alzheimer’s, dementia. I don’t know. It’s all terrible. I’m not celebrating it. But those people go down fast at the end of the day. It’s called sundowning. I know everyone knows about it now, courtesy of Joe Biden. But she saw Joe Biden borderline comatose. And I know because we saw him comatose on the television set. And I go back and forth on this one, Megyn, between I’m trying to figure out if they’re just genuinely a power couple. And then if Joe Biden, young, sober Joe Biden, who is in his right mind, if he wouldn’t want his wife to try to ram him through for a second term, maybe they’re just a political power couple. Or my other side of this where I go back and forth is, is she one of the most deeply evil human beings on the face of the planet? Because people going through dementia, if we’re going to call it that, if that’s what it actually is, they need rest and calm and care. Everyone knows that anyone who’s been associated with it, I have as well, knows that that’s what those people need. To take your own husband and throw him into the most stressful job on the planet and then demand that he run and do it again for four years, it would have killed him. He would have died in office. It would have killed him. It would have broken him. And she had to know that. They have all the best doctors in the world. She had to know that. Yet she did it anyway. So again, is she just a professional wife doing what he would have wanted or just an evil witch or somewhere in between? I don’t know. MEGYN KELLY: It doesn’t matter. Even if the younger Joe Biden would have wanted this, he had to be overruled. A loving spouse would say, now you’re 80 something and you’re not well and I’m overruling that. They say when you’re dealing with somebody who has dementia, you know, they tell you the same stories over and over and they ask you the same questions. They don’t remember what you told them that you’re not even supposed to say, I told you that. Remember? Or no, remember this. We just talked about that because it’s rattling to them that they don’t know that they’ve already had this conversation with you on 10 times and it’s upsetting to them to be kind of reminded that clearly they’re slipping. They’re losing their grip. So you’re supposed to be very gentle in handling this issue. You really shouldn’t make them president of the United States where millions of people and hundreds of press members are going to write about how you keep forgetting every night and day or shove them out on a debate stage where he sounds like this. I mean, we’ve all seen it a thousand times, but let’s just look back at how it went. PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: All those things we need to do, child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we’re able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I’ve been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. Look, if we finally beat Medicare. JAKE TAPPER, MODERATOR: Thank you, President Biden. President Trump was right. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: He did beat Medicaid, beat it to death, and he’s destroying Medicare because all of these people are coming in. They’re putting them on Medicare.<\/i> MEGYN KELLY: Trump’s face in that clip is legendary, legendary and very controlled for Trump, who even he knew, like, I don’t really want to mock him, but I’ve got to exploit this. And then, of course, he would go on in that great answer to say, well, here it is. BIDEN: And I’m going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we can do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers. TAPPER: President Trump. TRUMP: I really don’t know what he said at the end of this. I don’t think he knows what he said either.<\/i> [LAUGHTER] MEGYN KELLY: That night was the end of the Joe Biden presidential reelection campaign, and Trump handled himself beautifully. If he’d been too mean, the voters at home would have held it against him. He did. He went just far enough, but not too far. And this wife who shoved him up there and wants to pretend she never saw anything like that in private, Jesse, is a liar. I mean, this is like and it’s an obvious lie. So why do you think she’s doing this now? JESSE KELLY: I think that Joe Biden is uniquely power hungry and uniquely concerned about Joe Biden’s legacy. I don’t know if you remember. You probably do. You seem to remember everything after he was after he had that debate performance and the communists were trying to push him out so he wouldn’t run again. They wanted to replace him and they ended up being successful. But during that whole squabble between Pelosi and Jill Biden and all that, it came out, I forget which magazine it was, but it came out that Jill Biden was insistent that he get another presidential term. Otherwise, and this was her concern, that debate performance was going to be what people remember about Joe’s entire political career. And actually, since she’s not incorrect about that, I mean, Joe Biden was a senator forever, then vice president, the president of the United States of America. I mean, look, I don’t like the guy. I don’t like his politics, but he has a long political resume that’s pretty impressive when you look at it on paper. And yet most people are going to remember Joe Biden, his mouth hanging open, losing his train of thought. That is now going to be what people remember Joe Biden as. And that was part of her motivation. She said to give him another term. So it wasn’t his legacy. So this is very much some lady who sees herself as a queen. She’s worried about how the king will be remembered. And now she’s on this press tour doing the best she can. She tried to ride it out and wait it out for as long as possible. Now she’s trying to massage that whole image thing. But the truth is, she only has herself to blame. That’s one. And two, I will go back to being completely evil. If I cut myself shaving and I leave a piece of toilet paper on the little bloody part, my wife will stop me on the way out the door and say, honey, babe, hold on, take that off. Why? She doesn’t want me to be embarrassed in front of other people. She doesn’t care. But that’s just a basic spouse thing. You don’t want your spouse to be embarrassed in front of other people. So you try to protect them. This evil witch took her husband, who she knew was non-functional, and basically had him mocked in front of the planet. That’s the most amazing part. We’ve all been mocked. And we’ve all had a bad moment in high school or your professional career where you had a bad moment. You had that moment in front of 20 people, in front of 30 people. When Joe Biden had his moments, the entire planet watched and mocked him. We had foreign countries doing basic Saturday night live skits, mocking his mental health. And his wife kept pushing him out to do it. It is so freaking evil. Even if it is just a marriage of convenience, it is so evil to do that to your own spouse. She is built differently. MEGYN KELLY: It’s true. And now they’re reporting, because she’s got this book out. And that’s why she’s giving this interview. And we’re learning more about her claims. But she said, the night of the debate, she said, well, when it began, I immediately noticed that Joe didn’t look good. He didn’t seem himself from the opening. She writes, he improved as the debate went on, quote, but not enough to reassure me or anyone watching that he was OK. He clearly wasn’t. I’d never seen that look on his face before in my life. Then she says, the biggest lesson for us, I think, was that if you don’t explain something well enough, then the question won’t go away. There was never a satisfying enough explanation offered for Joe’s debate performance. And a lot of people never got over it. They just could have explained it better. Jesse, what do you mean? There’s nothing to explain. We know exactly what’s happening. There’s no explanation. You’re the people who just tried to gaslight us, telling us, don’t believe your lying eyes. And then all these top Democrat operators are coming out right now, very angry at her, saying, F you, Jill Biden, because you tried to shame us when we did try to explain, saying clearly he’s struggling, he’s having a bad night on, you know, there’s been some cognitive issue, whatever. That this White House wasn’t having it. So for her to now be like, oh, we should have explained it better. JESSE KELLY: Well, again, she’s a Biden and she lies. Remember, do you remember when they tried to tell us, because they knew, obviously, when he was running for office, when he was running, they knew that he was mentally declining and we could all see it. They tried to tell us that he had a stutter and they started getting their plants in the media to write stories about how this kid with a stutter overcome the stutter. And deep fakes, deep fakes. We’ve all watched Joe Biden forever and we knew he was kind of an idiot and a boob, but he didn’t have a freaking stutter. No one ever heard anything about a stutter, but they tried to tell. So the lies were carefully constructed. They had, remember, we got all the stories. We got all the stories after it came out. They had to put tape down on the floor, laying out for him the exact path he was supposed to watch and now walk and you could watch him do that little shuffle step trying to get his pad. They went to painstaking lengths to lie and cover up about his mental condition.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n