{"id":96955,"date":"2026-07-07T11:42:12","date_gmt":"2026-07-07T11:42:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fallsurfing.net\/firstnews\/rcp-podcast-trump-vs-mamdani-which-way-america-what-to-expect-at-nato-summit-world-cup-rocks\/"},"modified":"2026-07-07T11:42:12","modified_gmt":"2026-07-07T11:42:12","slug":"rcp-podcast-trump-vs-mamdani-which-way-america-what-to-expect-at-nato-summit-world-cup-rocks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fallsurfing.net\/firstnews\/rcp-podcast-trump-vs-mamdani-which-way-america-what-to-expect-at-nato-summit-world-cup-rocks\/","title":{"rendered":"RCP Podcast: Trump vs. Mamdani&#8211;Which Way America? What To Expect at NATO Summit? World Cup Rocks!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> Monday on the RealClearPolitics podcast, Carl Cannon and Tom Bevan discuss this year&#8217;s July Fourth celebrations and compare the assumptions behind speeches from Donald Trump and Zohran Mamdani. RCP White House reporter Carolina Lumetta joins the show to discuss attending the fireworks on the National Mall, the latest launch event for Trump accounts, and the president&#8217;s trip later this week to the NATO summit. After that, some conversation about the World Cup, including the controversy surrounding the World Cup, with FIFA overturning the red card given to American star Balogun.\u00a0   Listen live weekdays at 11:00 a.m. Eastern on SiriusXM&#8217;s Megyn Kelly Channel 111, or on <A href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/realclearpolitics-podcast\/id1509826894\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5FkNemg3aIaPPNBImIcW2l\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@realclearpolitics4074\">YouTube<\/a>, or other platforms.  <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kM2_r3_YTes\">00:00<\/a> &#8211; Opening: Dueling Messages on America&#8217;s 250th Birthday<\/b>  Cannon and Bevan reflect on the 250th July 4 celebration, and what we can glean from the difference between comments from President Trump and NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani.   <b>Watch: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/video\/2026\/07\/04\/trump_at_mount_rushmore_there_is_now_a_resurgence_of_the_communist_menace_in_our_land.html\">Trump at Mount Rushmore: &#8220;There Is Now A Resurgence Of The Communist Menace In Our Land&#8221;<\/a><\/b>  <b>Watch: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/video\/2026\/07\/03\/nyc_mayor_mamdani_delivers_speech_from_george_washingtons_desk_for_america_250.html\">Mamdani &#8220;America 250&#8221; Speech: America Is Exceptional Because &#8220;Here Nothing Is Fixed Into Place&#8221;<\/a><\/b>  &#8220;He&#8217;s responding to President Trump,&#8221; Cannon said. &#8220;But to say it&#8217;s not fixed sounds like a guy who wants to overturn it or change it radically in some way. But we know he does want to do that.&#8221;  &#8220;He&#8217;s 34. I guess he&#8217;ll be 35 this summer. He wasn&#8217;t born in this country. He didn&#8217;t have much of a career. He was a backbencher in Albany. Suddenly he&#8217;s the mayor of New York, and he quotes outright communists.&#8221;   &#8220;I don&#8217;t really look to him personally for explanations on what makes America great,&#8221; he said. &#8220;To use a New York word, I think it takes a lot of chutzpah for him to tell Americans what.&#8221;  &#8220;I&#8217;ve said before, I think Trump&#8217;s MAGA rap, &#8216;Make America Great Again,&#8217; and the progressives&#8217; thing, &#8216;Oh, we&#8217;re this irredeemable racist country, they both miss the point,&#8221; Cannon said. &#8220;I think America&#8217;s pretty damn great right now. And you know who agrees with me? All these immigrants who are trying to come to the country. All the immigrants that do come to the country.&#8221;  ***  <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kM2_r3_YTes&#038;t=886s\">14:46<\/a> &#8211; On the Mall For July 4, Trump Accounts<\/b>  RCP White House reporter Carolina Lumetta joins the show to discuss attending the July 4 celebration on the National Mall, and the latest launch event for Trump accounts.  &#8220;It was a very, very, very hot day,&#8221; she reported. &#8220;People getting taken out of the Mall for heat exhaustion and related stuff like that. But the president was absolutely determined to speak on the Fourth of July. He was not going to be denied.&#8221;  &#8220;We did break the world record for biggest fireworks display,&#8221; she added.   <b>Watch: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/video\/2026\/07\/06\/f-35_showcases_hover_capability_over_national_mall_on_july_4.html\">F-35 Showcases Hover Capability Over National Mall On July 4<\/a><\/b>  She also explains why &#8220;Trump Accounts&#8221; are being launched for the third or fourth time. &#8220;I feel like it has been written about, and they have gotten some decent publicity,&#8221; Tom Bevan said about the savings plan. &#8220;I don&#8217;t fault the Trump folks for trying to get back in the news as much as possible, because I think it&#8217;s actually a good policy.&#8221;  &#8220;It&#8217;s a great midterm message: We&#8217;re giving free money to children,&#8221; Lumetta added.   <b>Watch: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/video\/2026\/07\/06\/full_video_president_launches_trump_accounts_from_oval_office.html\">President Launches &#8220;Trump Accounts&#8221; From Oval Office<\/a><\/b>  ***  <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kM2_r3_YTes&#038;t=1250s\">28:50<\/a> &#8211; NATO Summit in Turkey<\/b>  Carolina Lumetta reports what is on the administration&#8217;s mind as the president heads to a NATO summit this week in Ankara, Turkey.   &#8220;The message from the White House on all things regarding NATO is just burden shifting, burden shifting, burden shifting, &#8221; Carolina reported. &#8220;The ambassador to NATO, Matt Whitaker, was really cautious to say that we&#8217;re not trying to leave NATO, but he did say that we have responsibilities elsewhere in the world, as the world&#8217;s only superpower is how he described the U.S. So we need everyone else to start ponying up.&#8221;  &#8220;I guess if you&#8217;re a NATO critic, you would say this is one of Trump&#8217;s accomplishments,&#8221; Bevan said. &#8220;Trump took a lot of heat his first term in particular by all these folks who said he&#8217;s going to destroy the transatlantic alliance, but he hasn&#8217;t, and he has moved the needle in terms of getting all these countries to meet their obligations. That&#8217;s something that no American president has even tried to do.&#8221;  ***  <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kM2_r3_YTes&#038;t=2120s\">35:20<\/a> &#8211; Trump Intervenes in World Cup<\/b>  The show closes with a World Cup discussion, including the controversy over FIFA overturning the red card given to U.S. striker Balogun, Norway&#8217;s upset of Brazil, and England&#8217;s dramatic win over Mexico at Estadio Azteca. Plus, looking forward to the final game later this summer in New Jersey.   Bevan and Cannon agree Balogun&#8217;s red card was probably undeserved, but Cannon argues Trump and the White House should have stayed out of FIFA&#8217;s decision-making process.  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>  Listen to RealClearPolitics weekdays at 11 a.m. Eastern on SiriusXM&#8217;s Megyn Kelly Channel 111, or on <A href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/realclearpolitics-podcast\/id1509826894\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5FkNemg3aIaPPNBImIcW2l\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@realclearpolitics4074\">YouTube<\/a>, or other platforms.  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