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Democratic Socialists of America co-chair Megan Romer discusses the DSA’s place in the Democratic Party, responds to concerns about the organization’s policy platform<\/a>, explains why the U.S. Senate is an “anachronistic institution” and should be replaced by a unicameral, parliamentary legislature, and how the best way to reduce illegal immigraton would be for the U.S. to “stop destabilizing other countries,” on ‘Fox News Sunday.’ “The two corporate parties have, over years and decades, created a system where ballot line access is extremely difficult for third parties,” she said. “I also have been told a lot of times by Democrats, not to vote third party because it’s wasting your vote. So, we run on the Democratic ballot line.” Among the items on the DSA platform she is happy to defend: “Abolish the Senate,” “Replace the presidency and Supreme Court,” “Abolish ICE,” “Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally,” “Defund the Pentagon,” “Abolish prisons,” “Government or public ownership of most large corporations.” “Again, that is part of a long-term program,” Romer explained. “The Senate is an anachronistic institution. It comes from the British House of Lords,” she added. “The Senate was part of the system that was made to make sure that the people didn’t have too much of a say. So, we want to expand Congress, significantly, but make it a unicameral legislature.” “We’re not saying open the borders tomorrow,” she continued. “We’re saying rebuild an economy and a society that works for everyone.” “The open borders is part of a longer-term international plan that involves the U.S. stopping destabilizing countries. Most people who are coming to this country are coming as economic refugees, and we destabilized their country. We did that,” she said. “When we get rid of the need for crimes of poverty to exist… that brings those numbers down to very small numbers,” she explained about prison abolition. “And then we can collectively decide what we do with those people. I suspect it won’t look like the prison system as we know it today.” <\/p>\n

SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: OK, so there’s this growing conversation about whether you can exist within the party, whether you want to upend it for your own purposes, a totally different platform. “The Daily Economy” quotes you saying this at a DSA convention last year: “We will win by making conditions so intolerable for the ruling class that they would rather give in to our demands than continue to live with the disturbance we cause until we are able to fully seize power ourselves.” Is that aimed at the Democrat Party? Prominent Democrat voices are pushing back on the growing influence of the Democratic Socialist candidates they say are ultimately going to hurt the Democrat Party. So, let’s talk about it with the national co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, Megan Romer. MEGAN ROMER, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA NATIONAL CO-CHAIR: Thanks so much for having me, Shannon. It’s aimed from the working class to the ruling class. So, the two-party duopoly, the two corporate parties, it is aimed at both of them, and it comes from the working class. BREAM: So, should Van Jones and Rahm Emanuel and James Carville and all of the establishment Democrats be worried about DSA plans from within their tent? ROMER: The establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what the voters think and about what the constituency thinks, and right now — right now they have not been delivering, and our candidates are and have been, and it’s resonating with voters. BREAM: So Jaime Harrison, who was the DNC chair after you guys had such a big night in New York City and knocking off some of those incumbents and having success with your candidates in the congressional primaries, he said, “If you hate the Democrat — Democratic Party then don’t run for our nomination, don’t use our resources, don’t rely on our volunteers, don’t use our infrastructure. Focus on building the party you actually support.” Other Democrats out there saying, this is a separate party, the DSA. You don’t belong within the party. How do you respond to his statements there? ROMER: Yes. I mean, the two parties have, over years and decades, created a system where ballot line access is extremely difficult for third parties. I also have been told a lot of times by Democrats, don’t vote third party. It’s wasting your vote. So, we run on the democratic ballot line where it makes sense. We run independence sometimes where — where that is a — a viable possibility, but it’s a ballot line. And what matters is what the voters think. And the voters are overwhelmingly choosing our candidates. BREAM: They certainly did in New York and in other places, Colorado and others. It’s not just a big city phenomenon or just a blue coastal phenomenon. So, we’re going to put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform. And I want to ask you. Just give me sort of a true or false on these. “Abolish the Senate.” ROMER: True. BREAM: “Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.” ROMER: Yup. BREAM: “Abolish ICE.” ROMER: Absolutely. BREAM: “Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally.” ROMER: As a long term plan, yes. BREAM: “Defund the Pentagon.” ROMER: Absolutely. BREAM: “Abolish prisons, at least in large part.” ROMER: Yes. Again, that is part of a long-term program. Yes. BREAM: OK. So, no prisons. Government or public ownership of most large corporations. ROMER: Yes, absolutely. BREAM: OK. So, then let’s go back through some of those then. Abolish the Senate. There are people who are in the Senate now who are very supportive of DSA. They lose their seats? ROMER: Well, the Senate is an anachronistic institution. It comes from the British House of Lords. It is made to protect power for — you know, the Senate was part of the system that was made to make sure that the people didn’t have too much of a say. So, we want to expand Congress, significantly, but make it a unicameral legislature. BREAM: OK. And without the presidency and Supreme Court. So, abolish ICE, would there be any enforcement of immigration laws? Or with abolishing the border, there’s — we’re not enforcing immigration laws. They go away. ROMER: Yes. So, again, this is part of this longer term plan. And — and part of it includes — BREAM: But if you can get there. ROMER: Think — yes. I mean, if we can get to the place where the U.S. is not destabilizing countries in order to mine them for resources, there will be significantly less migration. If we are not — BREAM: What do you say to those, though, that that would potentially destabilize the U.S.? Because there’s only so much the economy can bear. And when you have a flood of people coming in, it might not work out economically. According to a lot of analyses, if you just open up the borders and there’s no enforcement at all. ROMER: Well, we’re not saying open the borders tomorrow. We’re saying rebuild — BREAM: But eventually. ROMER: — an economy in a society that works for everyone. And the open borders is part of a longer term international plan that involves us stopping destabilizing countries. Most people who are coming to this country are coming as economic refugees, and we destabilized their country. We did that. BREAM: Well, a lot of — you know, if you look at data, the Center for Immigration Studies says, right now, the people, the households here in the U.S. that are headed up by people who are here illegally, nearly 61 percent of them are on some type of government or welfare program here in the U.S. Can we afford to do that? I mean, at some point, you run out of resources. ROMER: Well, right now, we make it very difficult for people to participate in society in such a way that they can — they can avoid using services. So, we want people to be able to work and live and go to school and — and actually participate, which means contributing to society and also getting what they need from society. It’s a collective choice we can all make. BREAM: So, if we talk about abolishing prisons then, does that make society better? I mean, is there anybody that should be incarcerated? I mean, rapists, child predators, murderers. ROMER: Yes. So, the long term plan, when we think about most people who are in prison, they are mostly in prison for crimes of poverty. BREAM: But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the really, you know, like the murderers and rapists. ROMER: Yes. No, I hear you. So, when we get rid of this need for crimes of poverty to exist, when we get rid of that destabilizing force that — that creates so many people who are living in desperate situations and doing desperate things, that brings those numbers down to very small numbers. And then we can collectively decide what we do with those people. I suspect it won’t look like the prison system as we know it today. BREAM: OK. But you do think some people need to be locked away from society? ROMER: Some people are not able to be functional members of society. That’s true. But what does that look like to keep the rest of us safe? You know, it’s — we’re talking about safety. We’re not talking about punishment. We’re talking about making sure that we’re safe. Everybody’s safe. Everybody maintains their dignity. And everybody maintains their humanity.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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